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Sarkis Council Member Joined: 13.04.2005 Posts: 1627  | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 04:18 Subject: No, Id din't say you were Luminaries, did I? I said almsot as bad as... Frankly, I'd actually chuckle to see a Sentinel kill soem because they belonged to a city. And it's not having purpose, it's hwo you go about it..Passion often leads to fanatical actions...the line is very, very thin. | ||
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Yreogh Family Member Joined: 12.12.2004 Posts: 1053 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:09 Subject: No, Id din't say you were Luminaries, did I? I said almsot as bad as... Frankly, I'd actually chuckle to see a Sentinel kill soem because they belonged to a city. And it's not having purpose, it's hwo you go about it..Passion often leads to fanatical actions...the line is very, very thin. No, the line isn't. And what have we done that fanatical lately? | ||
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Hatake Council Member Joined: 30.01.2005 Posts: 308 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:24 Subject: No, the line isn't. And what have we done that fanatical lately? Simple answer to that question. Killed Wedric | ||
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| Yreogh Family Member Joined: 12.12.2004 Posts: 1053 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:27 Subject: That's not fanatical, that's pure sensibility. And revenge. That bastard took my head off my shoulders! | ||
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| Hatake Council Member Joined: 30.01.2005 Posts: 308 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:29 Subject: You defend nature tooth and nail, and watch over it like a religion...or even AS a religion. EVerything your guild is meant to do relates to nature. hwo is that not fanatism? I suppose each guild has a thing they are fanatical or passionate about, but still... You say we are fanatical because we defend the Rhythm??? Well if we are fanatical in your eyes. Also take a look at yourself and your guild. You are always the one talking about balance here and balance that and that can't live without that cause it wouldn't be balanced. Sarkis your are a fanatical as well then. | ||
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| Sarkis Council Member Joined: 13.04.2005 Posts: 1627 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:30 Subject: Er...hug ...uh...*eyeshift* Shhhh....I can hear the crazy... Anyway, I didn't mean to imply your fanatism in a negative way..even though I DID compare it to Lummies. Which was a mistake, since Forestals don't go set a city or two aflame when they feel angry... Still, I offered my positions. There are some who have implied that on a whole, cities are a great scourage on nature, and will not endure time, and that they are contrary to nature itself. Tell me if that sort of narrow thought is not fanatical. It doesn't allow for deviation or any other view point to have validity, because those who hold must be right, because they are the ones who see it, and no one else does. Or...at least, that is the impression I have been give time and again. And frankly, it seems few people are willing to fix that, if it's wrong...instead, they try to av oid answering the questions or accusations put before thme, and allow the fanatics to answer int hier stead, because at least they have the strength to do so. Do I honestly think sentinels are fanatical? No, not in the same way you may see the term. There are some, however, that are, and give your guild a bad wrap among others. Of course you can say that you could care less how they think of you..but then that makes getting along with the people that much harder, and also waht ever your own, real views seem that much less worth making clear, sinc eit seems those who hold them will not stand up for them. Just because you stand up, doesn't mean you tread on feet, or should tread on feet. If you did...well...we know groups who hold the I'm right, your wrong view so absolutely, don't we? | ||
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| Yreogh Family Member Joined: 12.12.2004 Posts: 1053 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 14:35 Subject: Sarkis, you go calling all of us fanatical, then backpedal like that? There are fantics in almost any group of people. It happens. You can't go and accuse the entire group of fanaticism Irruel said he wouldn't mind seeing the cities destroyed. | ||
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| Sarkis Council Member Joined: 13.04.2005 Posts: 1627 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 15:10 Subject: Exactly what I said...and as to the thing about Balance, and the Sentaari? indeed, there are those who are down right depraved about it....unlike other guilds though, the Sentaari honestly have no central doctrine that tells them waht balance is or is not, nor hwo to best affect it, or even to teach it or not. A lot more is left to open an individual to understand, or choose to believe, in soem ways than other guilds. Alos, as I pointed out, dear Hatake, there is a difference between being a fantic, and being passionate...and the line between the two is very, very, very thin. One is blind, and allows no other views, the other is a little more, shall we say...open to reason, but only to an extent. I'm not sure really, hwo people view the Sentaari, though I am interested in knowing hwo they see us. Frankly, I think we very rarely provide the same sort of united front most other guilds strive for. Of course, that may be because I'm in the guild, and know the inner workings of it, and it's people. As to the supposed backpedaling... I meant the comment as more a poke in the ribs, than a punch in the face. If you took it the wrong way...well... That's what choice is all about, no? If I was being vehement in your eyes, I apologize. However, continuing along these lines will bring out a far more unpleasent side of my person. I did not mean to point and scream, but I can do that too, like any good fanatic. | ||
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| Yreogh Family Member Joined: 12.12.2004 Posts: 1053 | Posted: 03 Sep 2005 19:22 Subject: I'm sorry. I'm just kinda tired lately. I overreacted. It is nice to see yourself through the eyes of others everyonce in a while. Do we really come across as fanatics? | ||
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| Sarkis Council Member Joined: 13.04.2005 Posts: 1627 | Posted: 04 Sep 2005 20:16 Subject: Occasianly. But in a espeicaly bad way...now..Lumies and Daru come off as down right pyschotic. Indorani come off across as...pseudo evil people. sure, they claim to be evil, thne get married, have kids, get snuggly, and stuff, and not once do they wonder if they really are all that evil inside. Infernals are a guild I stopped payign attention to a loooong time ago. Cabalists seem sorta lacking without Ezrax, and Syssin are just...there... Magi soemtiems come across as self-interested and greedy, but maybe that's because Aybara is a pain at times. Paladins seem noble, and even smart, at times. Senti's have always sturck me as mildly insane, like...squirrels. Druids come across as aloof, arrogant, and self centered... Sentaari...it seems peopel are nto always sure what to make of us. We're really odd, since we have no unifying ideals we all share, really, all of us have different, soemtimes radiaclly different views on the three tenets. I suppose peopel see us as seperated, and aloof, nto really marching in step with anything in particular. As to cities...Ashtan is...changing, so..I dunno waht I can say, other than they need bridges, and street clean ers. Enorian...Oi, I see it as arrogant, and mindlessly fanatical at times. Bloodloch recently has bene under my radar, but I amy not knwo waht there are up to. Spinesreach seems...just weird to me, but not terribly horrible in anyway...And that leaves Duiran, which i refrain from commenting on, short of saying they may be the stewards of nature, but they sure as hell don't know how to generate sympathy for thier cause. | ||
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